STEVE PALERMO: I think it was -- there
was no formal request made as far as Kenny
Rogers being inspected. It was just detected that
there was a noticeable dirt mark of some sort on
his left hand, his pitching hand, and after the first
inning, I believe it was, Alfonso Marquez, the home
plate umpire, just asked Kenny to remove that dirt,
so there wouldn't be any question as far as any
controversy. And I think if you see the following
innings, Kenny pitched just fine without the dirt.
You have to understand, obviously
everybody realizes it was wet out there. You've
got a compound of water and dirt and it's going to
create a little bit of mud. And Kenny may have had
that spot on his hand or whatever it was, when he
left the bullpen, warming up out there, and maybe
trying to get a good grip on the ball. And dirt is not
a foreign substance. That's what we play on, that's
the playing surface.
Did the Cards complain at all that
any of the balls were discolored? The rule
states if the ball is discolored by soil, it's an
STEVE PALERMO: You can read that for
"No player shall intentionally
discolor or damage the ball --
STEVE PALERMO: Okay, stop, stop,
stop right there. Okay. It was never, never
assumed that he did that. Now, when a ball hits
the dirt, a ground ball, you're going to get dirt
and/or mud on the ball. So there is absolutely no
detection that Kenny Rogers put anything on the
ball, by any of the umpires. That rule calls for his
deliberately doctoring the ball in some regard.
The Cards did not complain about
STEVE PALERMO: No, not at all.
Was there an inspection by the
home plate umpire to determine the exact
nature of the substance on Kenny's hand?
STEVE PALERMO: Was there --
STEVE PALERMO: No, there was not an
inspection, there was an observation. And he
observed that there was some dirt or whatever,
and he asked him to take it off, because he had
If you look at the time frame as to how
everything went down, Alfonso Marquez was
talking to Kenny Rogers as he came off the field,
and Randy Marsh, the crew chief, was informing
Tony at the same time, because there had been
some question with the dirt that was on Kenny's
hand. So the umpires were very proactive and
they asked that Kenny just clean that dirt off so
that there wouldn't be any question as to him with
any foreign substance or dirt or whatever it may
have been on the ball. What they're doing is
they're trying to remove doubt in that situation.
And that's exactly what they did.
Kenny was just in here, he said the
umpires never had that discussion with him,
never told him to remove the dirt. He found the
dirt himself and wiped it off himself. Do you
have a comment on that? He's saying that
conversation never happened.
STEVE PALERMO: I spoke with the
home plate umpire and among other things,
because he was talking about pace of game, also,
if you notice Alfonso Marquez made a motion
about pace of game. He was rotating his finger
and telling him the clock is running and about pace
of game and what we have as far as a clock. So
he talked to him about several things as he walked
off the mound. And to the best of my knowledge,
Alfonso Marquez had a conversation with Kenny
Rogers, and he said, "Kenny, also that dirt thing
that you've got on your hand, if you'll do me a favor
and just take it off."
How do you know it was dirt?
STEVE PALERMO: Because it was
observed as dirt. Umpires, they've been around
for more than a week or so. This is not their first
summer away from home, so they've got a pretty
good idea as to what dirt is and what a foreign
substance is. These are highly competent and
highly trained umpires, and that's the reason
Did you observe it on Kenny or on
STEVE PALERMO: On his hand. And
obviously there's going to be -- there is dirt applied
to the ball to start with. Umpires and/or the umpire
attendant has a special mud that's applied to the
ball. So there's already dirt on that ball and/or
mud, if you will. And you're going to have spots of
dirt on the ball as that ball is in play.
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