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ASG debate: Frazier or Carpenter at hot corner?

Stats suggest Reds third baseman is worthy of Midsummer Classic start at home park

ASG debate: Frazier or Carpenter at hot corner?

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Few players provide a more conspicuous presence on a day-in, day-out basis than Matt Carpenter.

The bearded third baseman for the Cardinals is in the middle of everything, it seems, on the best team in the National League. He'd be an easy choice to be a starting third baseman in the All-Star Game, even on a team that includes the best young hitter in the game, the Cubs' Kris Bryant. But that doesn't mean that Carpenter would be the right choice.

The Reds' Todd Frazier is one of those ultra-reliable players who is easy to overlook, for one reason or another. But when you stack up NL third basemen, you come down to a difficult decision -- who deserves to be in Bruce Bochy's lineup more: the Cardinals' catalyst, Carpenter, or the Reds' run producer, Frazier?

You can argue it either way and not be wrong.

After all, Carpenter plays the game so hard that Mike Matheny had to send him home for a weekend earlier this month to keep him from burning himself out, and he's putting up an elite OPS of 1.010. That sounds like a guy who should get the call. But when you factor in everything, including defensive contributions, you give the nod to the Little League World Series hero, Frazier, by the slightest of margins.

Frazier's barehanded play

Frazier's championship game performance in 1998 in Williamsport, Pa. -- winning pitcher with a 4-for-4 day at the plate, include a leadoff home run -- is the stuff of baseball legend. But when you watch the Reds, it's easy to get caught up talking about other guys -- Billy Hamilton, Joey Votto, Johnny Cueto and Aroldis Chapman, specifically. But Frazier is the guy that Bryan Price builds his lineup around on a daily basis.

Frazier has hit 12 home runs, which leads NL third basemen by a wide margin. But he could be having a better season at the plate, with a .250 batting average contributing to his OPS being "only'' .910 through his first 135 at-bats. Because Frazier has gone 5-for-31 with runners in scoring position, he's actually scored more runs (26) than he's driven in (23) -- a surprising split for a guy who has hit third and fourth, with Hamilton in front of him.

Frazier's two-run shot

But look at fWAR. Carpenter is at 2.0 and Frazier at 1.9 already, putting them ahead of Bryant (1.2), who spent the first 12 days of the season terrorizing Triple-A pitchers, and the Rockies' Nolan Arenado (1.0).

Frazier's value to Cueto and the Reds' other pitchers is reflected in his WAR. Because of his versatility, he's never had the luxury of playing third base exclusively in the Big Leagues. Frazier has been there as a constant this season, and while he might not make enough spectacular plays to take the Gold Glove away from Arenado, he's been a very valuable fielder.

Frazier's laser solo shot

Metrics show Frazier has been way better than Carpenter in the field. While Frazier had 3.0 defensive runs saved and a 3.5 UZR, Carpenter is at minus-2 DRS and minus-0.2 UZR. So if the NL's starting pitcher (say Zack Greinke, as we speak) needs a play made behind him to get out of a jam, you'd probably want the ball hit to Frazier, not Carpenter.

You know both Frazier and Carpenter would go all out to get to the ball, because that's what they do. You can't go wrong with Carpenter or Frazier. But you have to pick one, and as it stands, it's the Reds' third baseman who has been the better all-around player. Once Frazier's RISP issues turn around -- and the small sample size suggests they surely will -- it might be an easier choice in a month than it is now.

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